060 How to Use Spirituality to Find Hope in Difficult Times with Vera de Chalambert

What do you do when you face a dark period? When your energy and reserves seem spent and there doesn’t seem to be a clear way out? For many of us, this is the time we cling tight to our resources and close off to anyone other than our immediate loved ones to weather the storm. When we face dark times our instinct is to create borders. The assumption is if we lay low, the dark time will pass and we can go back to our normal way of life. According to spirituality scholar Vera de Chalambert, it is in these times of darkness, when we hit our lows, that our spiritual awakenings often happen. And through these spiritual renewals we find a new, full, and deep source of energy and connectedness.

Vera de Chalambert is a mindfulness facilitator, spiritual storyteller and Harvard educated scholar of comparative religion. Through deep contact, conscious inquiry and holistic modalities Vera works with her clients’ energy-consciousness system to invoke wholeness, restore balance and invite deeper levels of integration and awareness to the client’s energy field, body and life. She is a graduate of the the Barbara Brennan School of Healing, and has studied nondual healing with Jason Shulman at the Institute for Nondual Healing and Awakening. Vera works with clients and gives talks and presentations on spiritual topics and was a speaker at SAND Science and Nonduality Conference in the US and Europe and Sister Giant in Washington DC. Vera holds a Master’s degree from Harvard Divinity School. In this episode Vera and I talk about the importance of letting yourself feel darkness and chaos, why strong, feminine energy is significant in the current political climate, and how to use spirituality to find strength when times are dark.

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What You’ll Discover in this Episode:

  • How you can change your perspective to see the low times in your life as part of your spiritual journey
  • What Kali represents and how learning to recognize her in your life can help you to get through dark times
  • How shedding your ideas about yourself can help you to become stronger, more independent, and more spiritually balanced

More about Vera

As we grow and discover what we’re drawn to and away from, we create stories about ourselves. We develop a sense of identity and place deep faith in the validity of the reasons that it has been formed. When this idea about ourselves gets questioned or even shattered, it shakes us to the core. According to Vera, this dark time is actually “essential for the spiritual healing and awakening process.” But that doesn’t mean it comes easily. “What we really discover very often,” she admits, “is that the spiritual life makes us into losers.” We lose our superficial ideas about ourselves and we “begin to lose our ideas of god and our old certainties.”

For Vera, this is the “process of the Kali dance.” Vera describes Kali as a dark feminine energy that shows up in nearly all spiritual doctrines. Kali is “the great mystery that envelops us when we come into contact with a quality of reality that includes life and death, birth and resurrection.” Kali is the time we associate with darkness. This time is darkness because it encompasses everything; both dark and bright times, and that sort of seeming contradiction is difficult for our minds to accept, so in our confusion we cling to the darkness. But Kali is not bad, Vera explains. While she encompasses “life and death, [she is also] birth and resurrection.”

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Vera asserts that we are going through a ‘Kali dance’ right now, throughout the world. Times appear dark and hopeless, but in reality it is a process that is leading us to universally shed “so many of our false beliefs.” Vera encourages those who feel hopeless to think of this as a natural part of the cycle of life and a time of “being intimate with aliveness.” “We have one certainty in life,” she stresses, “and that’s that there will be times when things fall apart.”

Check Out the Links Mentioned in this Episode!

Kali Takes America: I’m With Her by Vera de la Chalambert

Vera’s Website

Dark Gold by Carolyn Baker

The Instruction Manual for Receiving God by Jason Shulman


Sister Giant

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