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You Are Already The Expert. Now Build Like It: On worth, new systems, indigenous knowledge, and the future women are building toward with Vanessa Roanhorse

Hey Well Woman! There’s something I keep seeing happen to women doing meaningful work. They get good at it, really good, and then they undercharge for it, hide it inside a structure that wasn’t built for it, or wait for someone else to confirm what they already know. They do the work. They just don’t…

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358: Indigenous Knowledge and Building New Systems with Vanessa Roanhorse

How many times have I watched brilliant, capable women quietly talk themselves out of their own value, defaulting to structures that weren’t built for them, avoiding the language of profit like it would somehow compromise their integrity, waiting for the right credential or the right moment to finally call themselves the expert they already are?

It’s a pattern that runs deeper than most of us realize and it’s long overdue to name it out loud. 

My guest today is Vanessa Roanhorse, CEO of Roanhorse Consulting and Return on Indigenous Studios, a for-profit social enterprise rooted in Indigenous knowledge. A citizen of the Navajo Nation, she started her business in 2016 trying to close her own personal wealth gap. No financial background, no roadmap, just relationships and a willingness to keep asking why. Over the next decade, she evolved her firm into what she now calls an Indigenous ecosystem architecture firm, redesigning how institutions think about risk, building new capital mechanisms, and launching Return on Indigenous Studios to take community-centered businesses from idea to full capitalization.

This conversation goes far beyond what Vanessa built. It’s about how she built it and why the way she did it matters for every woman listening.

Because the story of Roanhorse Consulting is not just a business story. It’s a story about what happens when a woman stops asking permission to do good work profitably, starts building systems that didn’t exist before, stays rooted in relationships when everything around her is uncertain, and works through enough grief, therapy, and hard decisions to finally arrive at the place where she knows, without question, exactly what she is doing.

I think every woman in the middle of her own long game needs to hear this one.

In this episode, you’ll discover:

  • Why women doing mission-driven work keep underselling themselves as experts and what it looks like to stop
  • How Vanessa made the case for a for-profit social enterprise, and what that choice can teach any woman building at the intersection of purpose and income
  • What it means to build new systems instead of just participating in old ones and how to teach that thinking to others
  • Why relationships are not just a personal value but a structural strategy, especially in uncertain times
  • How to stay grounded in your work and your purpose when the external environment feels chaotic and find what’s yours to do
  • Why more women need to name their version of elderhood and give themselves permission to work toward it now

Behind every woman who makes it look easy, there is a decade of figuring it out. Behind every new system, there are years of asking why the old one wasn’t working. And behind every vision of a different future, there is a woman willing to build toward it before anyone else can see it yet. 

Ease in knowing that you don’t have to shrink your work to make it meaningful. Vanessa chose a for-profit structure not despite her values, but because of them. You are allowed to own your expertise, charge what you’re worth, and build in a way that also sustains you. 

Joy in giving yourself permission to name what you’re actually working toward. Vanessa knows exactly what she’s building toward: an elderhood where she gets to be present, available, and free. What does your version of that look like? Start there. 

Impact in understanding that the most durable impact isn’t always built at scale, it’s built in relationships, in rooms where decisions get made, in the quiet work of holding knowledge and passing it forward. 

Self-trust in recognizing that walking away from something that no longer feels right is not failure. Vanessa stepped away from an organization she co-founded because it stopped feeling good and that decision became the moment she finally knew exactly what she was doing. When something stops feeling right, that is information. You are allowed to listen to it. 

The Well Woman Show is delighted to partner with the Work and Family Researchers Network and its next conference June 17-20, 2026 in Montreal, Canada. For more information, look to https://wfrn.org/2026-work-and-family-researchers-network-conference/ 

✨ Join other smart, high-achieving women to rewrite the rules for how to love, lead, and succeed — so you can live with more joy, ease, and abundance, even when life is tough. 

🔗 Click here to join The Well Woman Academy™ group coaching program now! https://wellwomanlife.com/academy

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357: Feminist Economics and the Future of Care Work with Lucía Cirmi Obón

Care has always been at the center of our lives. So why has it never been at the center of our economy?

In this episode, feminist economist Lucía Cirmi Obón joins us to unpack something most of us have felt but never had the language for: that the daily work of raising children, caring for family, and holding communities together is not separate from economic life. It is economic life.

Drawing from her years inside Argentina’s national government and her ongoing work in feminist economics, Lucía makes a compelling case: economies that ignore care don’t just fail women. They fail everyone.

This is a conversation for the woman who has ever felt the weight of invisible labor, wondered why the systems around her weren’t built to support her, or simply wanted to understand the bigger picture behind the struggles she faces every day.

In this episode, you’ll discover:

  • What feminist economics teaches us about valuing real life
  • Why care work has been historically overlooked and how that’s changing
  • The connection between care, inequality, and economic systems
  • Lessons from Argentina’s approach to care policies and community care
  • How to think critically about mainstream economic narratives
  • The future of work and why care jobs are essential and growing
  • The role of men, families, and communities in building more balanced systems

The most personal things in your life like who cares for your children, who will care for you when you’re older, how much of yourself you give before anyone gives back, these are not private matters. They are political ones. And this episode will help you see them that way.

Ease in understanding that the overwhelm so many of us carry isn’t a personal failing. It’s a structural one. Lucía’s work is a reminder that when care is treated as a collective responsibility rather than a woman’s burden, something in us finally gets to exhale.

Joy in discovering that your lived experience (the caregiving, the juggling, the invisible labor) is not separate from the big economic debates. It’s the evidence. This episode has a way of making you feel less alone in what you carry, and more connected to a global movement working to change it.

Impact in seeing how feminist ideas that once lived only on the margins are now shaping legislation, policy, and international conversation. Every woman who speaks up, names the imbalance, or simply refuses to accept the status quo is part of that momentum.

Self-trust in the quiet confidence Lucía models throughout this conversation. She has walked into rooms that weren’t built for her perspective and made her voice heard anyway, not by abandoning her values, but by rooting deeper into them. 

The Well Woman Show is delighted to partner with the Work and Family Researchers Network and its next conference June 17-20, 2026 in Montreal, Canada. For more information, look to https://wfrn.org/2026-work-and-family-researchers-network-conference/ 

✨ Join us on April 30th at the Family Friendly New Mexico Business Awards Luncheon at Sandia Resort & Casino, where I’ll be in conversation with Dr. Corinne Low about what the data tells us about work, caregiving, and the structural changes needed for both people and businesses to thrive. 

As host of the Well Woman Show and Founder of Family Friendly New Mexico, I’m thrilled to bring this conversation to employers, HR leaders, policymakers, and community partners across our state — and to celebrate the businesses that are leading the way in creating workplaces that truly work for families. Grab your tickets at familyfriendlynm.org — hope to see you there!

✨ Join other smart, high-achieving women to rewrite the rules for how to love, lead, and succeed — so you can live with more joy, ease, and abundance, even when life is tough. 

🔗 Click here to join The Well Woman Academy™ group coaching program now! https://wellwomanlife.com/academywaitlist

Resources Mentioned

Connect with Lucía Cirmi Obón

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If you enjoyed this episode, please subscribe to the Well Woman Show on your favorite podcast platform and leave us a review. Share it with a woman who needs to hear this. Your support helps us continue bringing you conversations with incredible women leaders who are changing the world.

Almost Having It All with Dr. Corinne Low

Hey Well Woman! Let’s talk about those three words we’ve all heard and maybe quietly dreaded. “Having it all.” For a lot of us, that phrase stopped feeling like inspiration a long time ago. Now it just feels like a standard we can never quite reach, no matter how hard we work or how carefully…

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