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351: Overcoming The Systems That Fail Us with Jen Hatmaker

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What happens when the life you built on all the “right” systems suddenly crumbles? In this episode of The Well Woman Show, Giovanna Rossi sits down with bestselling author, speaker, and podcaster Jen Hatmaker.

Jen is the author of fourteen books, including four New York Times bestsellers, and host of the award-winning podcast “For the Love.” She’s also a speaker, advocate, educator, mother, and a textbook Enneagram 3.

But beyond the accolades, Jen is a woman who found herself rebuilding her life after her marriage crumbled—and in that rebuilding, she discovered something profound about the systems we’ve been told will save us. Her new memoir, “Awake”, isn’t just a divorce story. It’s a surgical examination of patriarchy, religious dogma, and the invisible walls that limit women’s lives.

What you’ll hear in this episode:

  • Jen’s journey from pastor’s wife and teacher to bestselling author and podcast host
  • Why divorce was only part of the story—and what it revealed about larger systems
  • How to recognize when shame is showing up and keep it out of the driver’s seat
  • Listening to our own bodies before burnout forces us to

If you’ve ever struggled with burnout, shame, or overcoming systems that fail us, this episode will inspire you to rise, rebuild, and reclaim your power.

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Resources Mentioned

Connect with Jen Hatmaker

Website: https://jenhatmaker.com/

IG: https://www.instagram.com/jenhatmaker/

FB: https://www.facebook.com/jenhatmaker/

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jen-hatmaker/

Connect with Giovanna Rossi

Website: https://wellwomanlife.com/

IG: https://www.instagram.com/wellwomanlife

FB:https://www.facebook.com/TheWellWomanShow#

LinkedIn:https://www.linkedin.com/in/giovannarossi/

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